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Mike G's avatar

What he said.

Was intro'd to a true believer this week and agreed to a chat.

Me: "So um yeah, I organized this tiny Harvard AI conference last spring - "

"Amazing! Finally someone on our side, there so many naysayers, we have to tell people how AI is really transforming already..."

Me: "Oh wait. No this was I guess a naysayer-ish conference. Convince us you see a path here around the 5% rule, and nobody could."

We had a good laugh.

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Josh Watson's avatar

"They invariably redefine math to mean “becoming an absolute demon at math exercises.”

Part of the problem is that some folks believe that math exercises ARE math and that anything past that is just unnecessary fluff.

I often hear this argument from parents/teachers: "You don't need to understand every part of the car to successfully drive it. You just need to be able to drive the car." In other words, why do we need all that fancy understanding of (place math concept here) anyway? Aside from the edtech/marketing bias issue of targeting only the population for which their product is useful and also defining "useful" as the thing that their product does... Aside from that, we still have many people in our country who genuinely don't see the value of mathematics past computation and math exercises. I think this is often (maybe always?) because they haven't experienced that value for themselves.

My response to that argument tends to be something like, "The point is that humans can't learn to drive a car safely if they are taught isolated concepts with only academic connection to the actual experience of driving a car. It wouldn't be very helpful to have a student drill a bunch of blinker signal situations without context "signal left, now signal right...". Driving safely requires understanding speed limits, gas and brake pedal regulation principles, how to safely distance from other vehicles, traffic patterns, etc, but more importantly, driving safely requires that you can apply principles in real contexts.

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